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IN THE SPOTLIGHT
by Mariel Rittenhouse
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- Janet Jackson is poised to pounce back into the public eye with a
new album, a book and an upcoming world tour. In an exclusive interview with
Prestige Hong Kong in New York, the Divine Miss Janet opens up to
Mariel Rittenhouse about growing up Jackson, life offstage with
boyfriend Jermaine Dupri and what still makes her blush.
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- Janet Jackson sits in a cordoned-off section of bustling Rosa Mexicano
restaurant in Manhattan, simultaneously texting and talking with an eager
publicist sitting beside her – the consummate multitasker. Clad in sweatpants
and a sweatshirt, the diminutive Jackson bundles herself up in an enormous beige
puffer coat just as I take off my own. With zero make-up, a slapdash ponytail
and skin glowing from a dance rehearsal just minutes before our meeting, she
sits in stark contrast to the dolled-up diva the world is so used to seeing – or
the fishnet-stockinged baby-doll vamp in the exclusive photo shoot on these
pages. She’s breathtaking, with a wide-eyed, soft-spoken warmth that’s disarming
given the magnitude of her celebrity. If it weren’t for the entourage and
impromptu VIP room, you might mistake her for just another beautiful face. Yet
as we all know, she’s anything but.
- It could be argued that Janet Jackson sprung forth from the womb a star. Born in
Gary, Indiana on May 16, 1966 to Katherine and Joseph Jackson, Janet Damita Jo
Jackson took her place as the youngest of 10 children. But these children
weren’t your average kids on the block. Her five eldest brothers were The
Jackson 5, a 1970s musical phenomenon. In the mid-1970s, Janet joined her
brothers onstage in Las Vegas, earning rave reviews performing comedy skits and
singing impersonations. The family routine was picked up by CBS and turned into
a TV variety hour called The Jacksons.
In the 1980s she pursued
an acting career, finding success on TV shows Good Times, Diff’rent
Strokes and Fame. But music was the family trade (and her destiny
as a Jackson), so her father set up a meeting with A&M Records. Her
selftitled debut album was released in 1982, achieving moderate success on the
R&B charts. In 1984 Dream Street hit the radio but, like its
precursor, it made few waves. Still, Jackson managed to rock the boat that year:
18 years old, she eloped with singer James DeBarge. Like many spur-of-the-moment
celebrity unions, it didn’t last. Jackson had the marriage annulled less than a
year later. After the tepid reception of her first two albums, Jackson teamed
with producers Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. From this collaboration, Jackson
released Control, a groundbreaking 1986 album that churned out no fewer
than six Hot 100 hits, five of them hitting the Top Five. Naturally, the Grammys
came calling, as did the Billboard Music Awards, American Music Awards, MTV
Video Music Awards and Soul Train Music Awards. With the release of
Control, she morphed into more than a Jackson – she became Janet.
And the hits kept
coming. In 1989 she followed up with the multi-award-winning Rhythm Nation
1814, which produced smash singles like “Escapade,” “Black Cat” and “Love
Will Never Do (Without You).” Amid the Rhythm Nation hoopla, Jackson
snuck in another wedding, this time to René Elizondo Jr, her boyfriend and
business partner. Unfortunately, this marriage didn’t stick either, and in 1999
the two bid adieu. The release of Janet on Virgin Records in
the early 1990s – along with a controversial topless Rolling Stone cover and a
role as a foul-mouthed hairdresser-cum-poet in John Singleton’s Poetic
Justice – established Jackson as a pop culture icon. The Grammy-winning
Janet became the first album by a female artist to debut at number one, and it
remains her most successful. After Janet, Jackson recorded The Velvet
Rope in 1997, All for You in 2001, Damita Jo in 2004, and
20 Y.O. in 2006. The later albums have signalled a change of musical
direction and have been far more introspective and autobiographical than her
earlier releases. This past autumn, Jackson returned to the silver screen
in Tyler Perry’s Why Did I Get Married?, her first film since 2000’s
Nutty Professor II: The Klumps. She is also back in the studio, this
time working with Island Records’ LA Reid and her long-time lover, Jermaine
Dupri, on an album slated for release early this year. A devout workaholic,
Jackson is also in the midst of writing a book that details her lifelong – and
much-publicised – struggle with her weight. For Jackson, paparazzi are
part of the package. She is perpetually plagued by a swarm of photographers who
chronicle every misstep, dust-up, joy and triumph. From her teenage elopement
and a slew of family dramas to Grammy awards, Billboard chart-toppers, legal
woes, weight gain, weight loss and the Super Bowl Nipplegate controversy, the
world has seen Miss Jackson at her best, her worst, and her most exposed.
Is she any the worse for it all? Hardly. She’s a survivor, a humble,
well mannered listener with a self-deprecating but lightning-quick sense of
humour. A return to the spotlight is imminent. So, for now, it’s all business
for the unstoppable Janet Jackson. She wouldn’t have it any other way.
- You’ve lived your entire life in the limelight. Everything has been recorded
for better or worse. How do you keep it all in perspective? What’s life like for
Janet Jackson?
It has its moments; I can’t complain. There are moments
when it’s a little boring. There are a few times when it’s a great deal of fun.
There are times when it’s a lot, a lot, a lot of work.
Is right
now one of those times? Yeah, you don’t get much sleep. No you don’t . .
. it’s the day-to-day. The last project – when I was in Europe doing a promo –
by the time I finished my day I was so exhausted and everyone would e-mail me
and I would just have a list of things to do before I could go to bed and I
found myself getting only, at most, three hours, sometimes literally only one
hour of sleep. Then I would have to get up, go to a photo shoot and do
interviews the following day – and it was like that the entire time. But it’s
work that has to be done.
When you’re off, is life a little more
manageable? Yeah, it definitely gets lighter. There’s always something
going on. It still gets lighter and that’s probably when it gets a little
boring. Then I’m ready to get back to it again.
As a Jackson, was
entertainment the only plausible trajectory or did you want to be something else
when you were young? I heard you wanted to be a jockey? Yeah, I started
riding when I was five. I’ve been so scared to get on a horse since what
happened to Christopher Reeve. That really frightened me. That could be me, that
could be anyone. I wanted to be a racing jockey when I was a kid, and when I was
in high school I wanted to go to college to study business law. God saved me, or
my father, I should say, saved me and said, “Nah you’re not going to do that.”
You started your career as a TV actress. Was it daunting to make the
transition as an adult into films? When I was 10 I started to act. It
wasn’t difficult [to make the transition]. A lot of things happened to the kids
I was around, like Todd Bridges, Gary [Coleman], Dana [Plato], and everyone
would say to me, “Why hasn’t something like that happened to you?” I’ve just
been thankful and never tried to think about it. I just thank God. Everyone’s
life is different. Not to say their parents raised them incorrectly, but I think
a lot of it does have to do with their upbringing. But then again, you never
know what that person is going through, how it affects them. One minute you’re
adorable, you’re cute and you’re working, and you go through your adolescence
and you’re not quite as adorable because you’re a little awkward and you feel
like no one wants you anymore. And you’ve got pimples. It’s not easy being a
teen. And then you’re not getting the parts you were getting. So I think a lot
of times you can internalise and say, “What’s wrong with me? What did I do?” But
it has nothing to do with you – how do you explain that? I’ve just been very
fortunate because at that point I started into music – that’s how the energy
transitioned for me.
In Tyler Perry’s Why Did I Get Married?, you
play Patricia, an author/psychologist who writes about love. What drew you to
that role? I thought [Patricia] was a really good person. I could relate
to her in a sense because, well, it’s weird, I don’t know why, but my friends
call me – and you’re supposed to be there for your friends – but some of them
call me their therapist. Like I’ve got the answer, and I don’t. I mean, I hear
what they’re saying and I try to give them the best advice, but more than
anything I just try and be there to listen. I’m nowhere near a therapist, but
obviously I’m doing something right . . . they pour their hearts out. Everybody
needs to vent sometimes. And it can’t be because I was married twice and
divorced twice, because I wouldn’t listen to me! But [my friends] say, “You’ve
done it twice, haven’t you learned from your mistakes?” And I say, “I’m still
trying to figure it out!”
Who do you vent to? I still have
conversations with God. And you know, I’ll talk to . . . I have so many brothers
and sisters, that’s the good thing about having such a big family. You’re best
friends with this person this week and best friends with this person the next
week, and I’ve got eight of them, you know?
Do the Jacksons still get
together for family gatherings? We didn’t this year and my nephew, bless
his heart, said, “We’re not getting together this year and I’m really mad
because it’s going to fall on my birthday so everyone was going to be there for
my birthday!” Some of us don’t celebrate birthdays because we’re Jehovah’s
Witnesses, but he was still going to pretend and be like, “This is a party for
me!”
What were you like as a girl, away from all the hoopla and
flashbulbs? I stopped playing with dolls at the age of 10, which when I
look back, I think that’s young. But I was working so much that there was just
no time. But we had a lot of animals – that was my thing. I used to take care of
the animals, feed them, clean their cages, wean them from the bottle. I got a
lot out of that. We had dogs, one cat, we had a giraffe, an ostrich, peacocks,
pheasants, it was really different, a llama.
There’s been talk of a
Jacksons world tour. Will it happen? I really don’t know. I hope it
happens. I would love for it to happen. I’m probably [my brothers’] biggest fan.
I think it would be great if they did. They’re so loved and definitely missed
and there’s so much history there, musically speaking even, there’s so much that
they have to give . . . there’s so much youth still there. I think about how
Mick Jagger is 65 million years old, like a dinosaur or something, all of them
[The Rolling Stones], and I look at my brothers and none of them look their age.
Not that they’re old, they just still don’t look their age and it really trips
me out. And I hope they do [stage a world tour]. They still love their music.
You’ve moved to Island Records and you’re working on your new
album with your boyfriend, Jermaine Dupri. Since you and Jermaine live together
and work together, is it difficult? No, from my perspective it’s not.
But you’d have to ask him for his perspective, if I’m difficult [laughs] – I
don’t think I am! I think there’s such a thing as being a team player with
whatever it is you’re doing, and granted it’s your career, so you should have a
final say, but still it’s about a team effort and you could never do it alone.
But if there is something that we both feel differently about, it just should
really be talked about and that’s the way we’ve always done it. Except this time
around I see Usher and Mariah [Carey] coming out of the studio and I say, “Okay,
wait, aren’t you supposed to be working on my stuff? We’re supposed to be doing
our stuff together.” And he goes, “Well yeah,” and I’m like, “Why are they here,
don’t I come before them when it’s time for the album to be released?” Not
because I’m his girlfriend [laughs], but for the release of the album. Mine has
to be released first, so doesn’t it make sense to get me out of the way first?
But it’s all good.
At least this way you get to spend more time with
one another. But that’s something I don’t think we will ever get enough
of because we’re always working. Like he was up here in New York for maybe a
week and we really didn’t see each other. When you’re working in the studio you
work really late at night, so by the time he’d get back from the studio I’d be
getting up because I’d have something to go do, so we kept missing each other
like that. It got really bad, so we’d send messages all day long saying how much
we missed each other. It definitely helps to know that you’re missed. It does
keep a little fire to it.
There are conflicting reports of Jermaine
being your boyfriend, your fiancé or your husband We’re not married. I
call him my boyfriend. Jermaine calls me his wife, I’ve heard him say that as
well . . . But not yet. I don’t know if that will ever happen. Maybe, I really
don’t know. It’s because, at least for myself, this space that we’re in I think
is so nice. I feel like maybe marriage is a jinx for me. I’ve done it twice; I’m
not trying to be Elizabeth Taylor and do it eight times. Where we are is good
and we’re happy and there’s no drama. And plus, I think there’s something about
having a spiritual connection where you don’t have to have a certificate to
validate the love. So it’s all good – if you make those vows to one another and
you know that you have a connection, that’s all you need. I really do think
[marriage] is just a way for the government to keep tabs on everybody, I truly
do. Now people think you’ve got to grow up and get married and have a family,
you don’t have to do that if you don’t want that. Just because everyone else
does that doesn’t mean you have to.
How did you and Jermaine
meet? We first met at my concert in 1990. He came backstage and said
hello and I think I was married, or I got married right after, I don’t know, I
can’t remember. We’d see each other here and there, we did a couple of remixes
and stuff, and from those remixes we became friends. We really connected.
Where do you spend most of your time? Right now I’ve been
spending a lot of time in Atlanta because that’s where I’m recording the album,
but it’s between LA, New York and Atlanta.
Where’s your favourite
place to be? I’ve got more than one. Somewhere on an island where the
sand is white and the water is turquoise-y, aqua, and it’s nice and warm outside
and there’s a beautiful breeze. I live for that. And Europe, I love Europe – and
I live for Asia.
Will you do a big world tour when your album is
released? Yeah. I was actually supposed to tour with the last album, but
we didn’t because I was actually in Atlanta and Island asked me if I would
consider not going on tour, start the new album and then go on tour.
When a platinum hit is born, do you just know it? You can
hear it. You can hear it because it has all the right elements after you’ve sung
it; you can hear it. But to the magnitude it will be, you don’t. If it will
spend one week at number one or six weeks at number one, you just don’t know.
You can have all the marketing in the world and all the publicity in the world,
but if the music isn’t right, then you have nothing.
Have you been
surprised by a song that hits it big or isn’t as big as you thought it was going
to be? No, not really. When I really think that a song is going to be
successful, for the most part it is. I thought “Together Again” would be
successful, but to the magnitude that it was, that I didn’t know. There’ve been
a couple of those instances. Sweet surprises.
I think many of us
imagine the Jackson/Dupri household as an absolute love fest of music, singing
and dancing. Is that the case? There is always music flowing through.
It’ll be about video games, it’ll be about things that we enjoy doing, doing
together. But there’s still always music flowing and all types of music flowing
through it.
Do you ever listen to your own music? The only
time I listen to my music is when we have to put a tour together. Isn’t that
crazy? It’s so funny because I was just speaking to someone the other night and
he said that his wife was pregnant and they wanted to thank me and I said, “Why
are you thanking me?” And he said, “Because the baby was conceived because . .
.” of me! You don’t know how much I get that. I get that so often, it’s so
funny. People are listening to my music having children and I don’t listen to my
own music and I don’t have any kids [laughs] so maybe I should listen to my
music! People walk up to me and introduce me to their daughters and say she was
conceived because they were listening to me. They’ll tell me what album. It’ll
be The Velvet Rope or the Janet album, more so than the others. It’s so weird.
I’ve always called it baby-making music. You know, let’s do a baby-making song.
You’re working on a new book that chronicles your struggle with
weight? It’s not necessarily about yo-yo dieting, it’s coming from my
soul. It has been tough at times – even when I was younger – so it talks about
those times and what triggered me to come out of it. Also it gives little
nutrition tips in the back on how I did it. It’s not strictly about nutrition .
. . it talks about the struggle that I had.
Do you watch what you eat
every day? I watch what I eat, but I still have my moments as I’ve
gotten older. I never had a sweet tooth before, never did, but now – I mean I’ve
always loved strawberries and whipped cream but that’s healthy – I’ve got this
thing for caramel apples, and I used to love caramel apples when I was younger
but now it’s bad. There’s a spot in Atlanta that sells them all year around – I
find a way to find them [laughs]. They want me to have them!
When
will the book be out? Hopefully sometime in 2008. So many people have
asked me, ”How did you do it? What caused it [the weight fluctuations]?” So I
thought, let me just write about this to let them know. This is what worked for
me. I don’t know if it will work for them, but this is how I went about it.
How do you spend the holidays? I normally go away for the
holidays, by the water. This year I’m going snowboarding. I enjoy snowboarding
even though I haven’t done it in forever. When you wake up the next morning and
everything hurts – your toes from gripping, all the way up – you can’t move
anything, everything hurts. I snowboard in Colorado.
What makes
you nervous? I don’t like speaking in public. I’m more of a listener. I
don’t mind going to functions but I like to stay quiet and listen and be more of
an observer. But to get up in front of a sea of faces, and everyone’s quiet and
you have to speak, to give a speech because you received an honour – I get
embarrassed. People say, ”I think you picked the wrong profession if you don’t
like people staring at you.” But if I’m moving around on a stage, like a moving
target, it doesn’t bother me. But the minute I’m still, I really don’t like to .
. . I get so embarrassed.
What are your New Year resolutions for
2008? This is awful, but I’m going to try and stop cursing as much. I
know that sounds crazy. I didn’t used to curse, but when I did Poetic Justice I
had to curse so I was practicing my cursing and I haven’t stopped. It’s bad, I
do it too much. It’s a bad habit. That and to become more environmentally
friendly. I’ve already started with my little energy-saving light bulbs; I’ve
been testing them out. And I was thinking about getting a hybrid but I love
these big cars, I love trucks and stuff. I’m awful. Slowly but surely I’m
getting there, slowly but surely so that it’s not too drastic. But yet [laughs]
I try to do it fast enough so that I won’t be the cause of the end of the world!
They’ll say, ”If she moved just a little quicker, this wouldn’t be happening
right now!” What’s an ideal day? I enjoy keeping
busy, actually. Both ways. I enjoy working, working, working until I’m really
tired, really tired. Then I enjoy getting away for a couple weeks, being with my
family, being with my friends and just chilling out. Nothing special, nothing
big, just chilling out.
I love Europe. I’m down to go to Europe and Asia
anytime, whether it’s to go to work or just to tag along. I love visiting
countries and sightseeing and learning about the culture, the people, listening
to the music and testing the food – I just enjoy stuff like that. Then once
again, I love being on a nice warm beach, where there’s sand – the ocean just
calms me. I love just being on a yacht and chilling out.
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